$60K in Debt as a Q12 Quixtar Platinum

This is from a post on the Quixtar Blog Forum. The last paragraph is interesting given the recent talk at the Quixtar Opportunity Zone about doing things right. I know that the Quixtar corporate bloggers have read my site in the past so lets hope they address this.

Hello all! We are new to this forum but ran across your question about John Crowe. For your information, he has left BWW along with his daughter and son-in law Dave & Kristin Dussault. Also, Jack and Magee Spencer have "jumped the shark" as well. The "Callendar" team, most of which are unqualified diamonds, remained with Bill Britt. Some other defectors include Kanti and Hemi Gala who have started the "Winners" system which is most of the India business. Some additional IBOs have joined LTD as well to include but not limited to Tom and Connie Cooper, Louise Cole, and Terry and Laura Taylor. Rex has also defected from BWW but some of his downline like Dave Taylor (and his 20-something honey ), Angelo Nardone, Ray Melillo, etc. have remained with Bill.
 
Here is some other information for you to chew on. The situation with Paul Miller is as follows: he was sleeping with his secretary for 14 yrs, has 2 children with her, and apparently bought off the ex-husband, Rob, to keep him silent. It is true that Debbie was having an on-going affair with an Emerald's son (who will remain nameless) who is now affiliated with LTD. Basically, Kanti Gala has stated that Bill is not welcome to speak at his functions unless Peggy is present with him. We personally have met and associated with many of these individuals.
 
How do we know this information?... Well my husband and I built the Quixtar business for almost 7 yrs, being CORE for all those years. We were affiliated with BWW and then switched our affiliation to LTD over 1 yr ago. We qualified Double Eagle, Founders Platinum, and Q12 up until the time we decided to no longer build this business. We were profitable but due to the system expenses and revolving door business, we racked up over 60K in debt. We always struggled with our conscience about the way the AQMO's taught us to build the business and upon discovering about the "system" scam, we decided on principle we could no longer continue unwittingly defrauding and hurting other people. Although we were shocked with how the Quixtar corporation handled our formal letter of complaint (and those of 8 of our downline) i.e. did nothing in spite of over 450 files of threats and violations of Quixtar business conduct and rules which we submitted, we realized that the corporation and the AQMO's are one in the same. Terminating our relationship with the Quixtar business was one of the best decisions we ever made for our family.

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[G]

*********Adulterer Paul Miller and his Upline God, Adulterer Billy Britt absolutely have a vendetta against Larry. When Paul finally got divorced and Bill cheated on Peggy and was caught and she filed for divorce and they blamed it on a heart condition, the Winter's team had to carry the load of handling just about everything to do with BWW. Rex Renfrow had it out with Bill and left with harsh words at this time and numbers were in the crapper outside of Winters and Gala. Many, many good people and Diamonds businesses were affected more than they freely admit with all this. LTD is the end result of years and years of this type of nonsense. Leaders lead. It's as simple as that.

**********BWW function numbers have dropped drastically since the Winter's Team left. Very hard feelings and words were said and ending with Britt threatening legal action to keep LTD financially handcuffed. Trying to prevent them from producing their own training material's to no avail. The depth to which BWW has sunk would astonish the masses of IBOs still purchasing cd's with current Saphires on stage speaking as current and qualified Diamonds.

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Anyone surprised by what LOA this platinum was in?

[Hannah]

I have been in Amway and Quixtar for 19 years and most of that time as just a buyer and casual attender of system functions (tapes, CD's too). I have been involved in 4 systems due to leadership changes, the latest one Network 21. In my entire 19 years the only debt I ever racked up was my own consumer debt having nothing to do with either business. My husband and I have a special needs daughter and it has been her needs that spurred us on to actually build a business which we are now Q12 Platinums. My husband makes over $120k a year but her needs take $40-$80K of that per year. It is because of this opportunity that we were able to stay out of bankruptcy. We definitely believe in the system approach to network marketing but not to a cult-like degree. My Lord, how did you get into $60K debt - why didn't you stop at $5k or $10k. Having been in this business for almost 20 years, I understand that people are still quite imperfect. But it is nearly impossible to go into debt when the start-up cost is $100 OR if you are an idiot and buy every CD, DVD and go to every function, etc. but don't actively do the activites that build a profitable business!! No one who has been in as long as I have believes anyone who says they got into debt as thought you are a victim. The business is as simple as get a number, buy your own stuff and show others how to do the same - we still do not carry any inventory other than a couple of extra toothpastes or detergents in case we run out. Give me a break!

[Jay]

What you wrote really scared the heck outta me man. But seriously, how poor are you in math. You said you I quote "Well my husband and I built the Quixtar business for almost 7 yrs, being CORE for all those years. We were affiliated with BWW and then switched our affiliation to LTD over 1 yr ago. We qualified Double Eagle, Founders Platinum, and Q12 up until the time we decided to no longer build this business. We were profitable but due to the system expenses and revolving door business, we racked up over 60K in debt. Man!!!
As a Q12, your minimum income is at least 44K/YR (i.e 12month*$2000=$2400) + ($20K Q12 Bonus Check).
Now either you and your Husband are either DUMB, CRAZY, Poor in Math or I dont know what else to say.
You know all that happened in the world of Amway/Quixtar and BWW, LTD etc. but forgot to do the math.
Now do you know why this business didn't work. You Moron, this is an Independent Business Owner business. Not a lemme change the world business.
So all that you mentioned tells me that you were not in Business to make money but to point finger. Now thinking about it, only God knows if you were even doing the business. People who do this business make money.
Next time, after you leave a comment at least be bold enough to put your darn name to it.